As opposed to Laurens Haggis narrative, mine is not hearsay. Auditing is just counseling. Like me. I MYSELF had been doing just that until recently, though I didnt do it that much. Sorry, but thats evaluative and rude. Looking for Tayler Tweed? Anyway, my comment above had to do with the notion that the church does not treat the mentally ill. This seems to me like an ASC false datum that fits their agenda and theyve convinced others that its true so now its an everybody know, like so many of their assertions. Discussion in 'News and Current Events' started by RightOn, Jan 20, 2014. Nobody does. Again, its a matter of freedom of religion as well as separation of church and state. One sane and balanced comment, at last! Pseudoscientists in Scientology? Rest in Peace Taylor, I will always remember you as a firecracker and kindhearted soul who wanted to save the world. http://whyweprotest.wikia.com/wiki/Scientology_Suicides#The_dead_cannot_tell_us. Obituary Marjorie Tweed Davis, 77, of Black Mountain, passed away Thursday, November 12, 2020. Read Today's Notices. I am Jim Dandy and Im here to the rescue. I DO believe in the goodness of others, my friend, as one of my basic beliefs in live. Yes, I pity this family, but they are not innocent. If they were, their approach in the show would be different, and they would be more careful with the facts and about not making generalizations out of a few instances and stereotyping the Scientologists in general. Obituary SARAH AND AUGUSTUS TWEED WOODMANSEE February - 15, 1987 - June 11, 2015 Sarah Michelle Tweed Woodmansee,28, and her unborn son Augustus 'Gus' Tweed Woodmandsee, passed away at home surrounded by those who loved them most. I must confess that I didnt have any moral problem with that, back then. This is pathetic and sad. In my opinion, the best way to handle this is not by trying to demonstrate who is stronger or more badass, which is the current narrative of BOTH, the church and the anti-Scientology movement. I say this with affection. I dont know where this idea that Scnists dont believe in doctors came from (Leah? Searching obituaries is a great place to start your family tree research. . Dedicated to a wonderful person who left too soon. These same quote were used on Leahs show to make Cathy Tweed appear insane, as well: https://tonyortega.org/2014/01/20/tales-from-scientologys-hollywood-celebrity-centre-tayler-tweed-steven-mango/. This link is about the dangerousness of many psychiatric treatments by a psychiatrist himself, Dr. Peter Breggin : Now, many anti-Scientology individuals will say that Dr. Breggin works for Scientology, or is or was a Scientologists, just because his narrative is similar in many ways to the one used by CCHR. So we all must be at least a little bit paranoid. Unless your experience results in greater tolerance and compassion and wisdom for suicide survivors what good is it? But of course, the current anti-Scientology narrative used by haters and by uninformed individuals to help their OWN personal agendas, disseminate a false perception brought about by the Media show. The No.1 site across the UK for funeral notices, where you can search over 5,004,817 notices. And that it then forbids its parishioners from trying out medications is actually, literally, dangerous for Scientologists who suffer from depression. We last spoke a couple days before her suicide, and she was excited about starting classes at the Art Institute in Audio Production, but still very much depressed and in a volatile state of mind. The tax exemption could be either revoked or revised, and a fair payment plan could be allowed for any past payments required as a result of such a revocation or revision. Publications: The Daily Telegraph, The Advertiser, The Courier-Mail, The Gold Coast Bulletin. We love you, Tayler. These could be briefly catalogued as: (and he gives a list). Friendly hint- dont say the sorts of things that you might criticize or object to others saying. This makes me absolutely sad You are saying that you were taking your daughter to doctors when Scientologist dont believe in doctors she should have went to a therapist and got help when she needed it !!. Any professional therapists SHOULD also seek legal protection, and there isnt anything immoral about that. All the quotes you have seen from Cathy Tweed came from Tonys conversation with Taylers mother the day after she buried her daughter. But no cult has the right to break the law. Perhaps not along these lines, no, but perhaps we can teach them to recover the compassion that was once part of the Scientology world on a long gone past, so they can AT LEAST be able to offer sensible recommendations, and referrals to responsible psychotherapists who dont use primitive methods of healing and dangerous drugs to help their patients. For Christs sakes, what is Thursday Funnies and Regraded Being about If not about mocking the church? Apparently it was a policy set by Hubbard that one needed to find out about any health issues and then get it or them taken care of before starting this course. Need help? It never ceases to amaze me the amount of plain stupidly from the anti-Scientology camp! Clearly Leah and Mike have some type of agenda, and as you point out, it is not reformation. Criminal acts are not covered by the first amendment. Theres your little sermon for the day. Leah and Mike heroes??? On Saturday, a memorial was held for her at Scientology's Hollywood Celebrity Centre as family and friends gathered to remember the attractive young woman who had been working on a career in music and acting (as Tayler DeBari). Douglas R. Tweed, 84, passed away Monday, March 20, 2017, at Mayo Clinic Health System in Barron, Wis. COINCIDENTALLY enough, what Ortega, Jeffrey Augustine, Shelton, Aaron Smith-Levin, and Mike Rinder post, are in PERFECT synchronicity about the SAME EXACT subjects. As a rather usual phenomenon that we Puerto Ricans cant still understand, Irma went off towards the North just as it was approaching the island. At my org, this acted as a huge invalidation for quite a few individuals who protested about the looong running of processes disregarding any cognitions except the very specific and arbitrary ones decided by DM out of his own misinterpretation of the Tech. Search Tweed obituaries and condolences, hosted by Echovita.com. And then over 2 years later, Tony Ortega brought in a licensed family therapist, Rachel Bernstein, to psychoanalyze the quotes from Cathy Tweeds which were made the day after her daughters funeral. And Im mos def not an anti Scientologist. If we were to go and try to rescue those in the RPF or The Hole (if it even exist today, which I DOUBT it very much), they would probably say, What the fuck are you doing here? Please, be so kind to exactly quote or present the exact time tap(s) in that 2nd episode of The Aftermath where ANY ACTUAL evidence was presented as to Taylers mother Cathy Tweed having thrown out her daughter or disconnected from her. Dont get me wrong, the medical field produces a lot of miracles and Im not down on them in general. I think that we all need a second chance at redemption, forgiveness, and the opportunity to right our wrongdoings. Ok Alanzo, thanks! They are quite outspoken about the barbaric psyches and the treatment of the mentally ill, yet, they will have nothing to do with the mentally ill. A lot of criticisms, but no solutions. But if we are going to blame and criticize Scientologists for this, then I am afraid, that we would have to do the same with MILLIONS of Americans, to not mention the other millions from other countries. Because people like you who come on to blogs to post anonymously to trash a mother whose daughter committed suicide dont really get things like this, no matter what you say to them. Regarding, Type III cases, I was referring to current onlines public. I realize there are many sides to documentaries, but if all the stuff Leah and Mike say are false, why isnt the church proving them wrong? Require a physical examination from whatever practitioners of the physical healing arts may be competent and available;, 2. #ScientologyTheAftermath" But, no one who watches a documentary, should walk away and think they know everything about the subject matter. He was a life member for more than 74 years with the Americus Hose Company, Bloody Third Ward. She states that she did take her daughter to doctors, but what kind of doctors? Does that sound familiar to anyone was in?. I am tired the shit of you guys. Currently, our team is striving hard to know what Tyler Tweeds cause of death was. But we auditors know better than to hate and punish. Doh! This is Taylor Tweeds mother and brother speaking out about how they feel about Taylors suicide being featured on A&Es Scientology and the Aftermath. Hear your loved one's obituary. Mrs. Davis was born October 10, 1943 in Madison County to the late Fred and Lillian Gosnell Tweed. There have been manslaughter convictions of Christian Scientists and others who kept their own children from the medical care they needed and ended up in prison. A Scientologist heading for suicide - the missing Tayler Tweed Facebook postings - 2016-04-28 I couldnt have said it any better, Statpush! Very, very accurate description!! Whether or not this is specific to sea org indoc, i dont know,, my experience has been with class 5 orgs as staff and public, tho the presence of advanced org staff has been more noticeable during the last period i was back on service 2005 -2010. Explain to me why she was so extremely desperate to be heard. I just couldnt resist it, . If I remember right it was a tough decision that went to the Supreme Court and that was with regard to children. Technically, what Mike and Leah are doing IS a documentary. But not all mothers have award winning, network sponsored TV shows magnifying their mistakes. Getting licensed is actually a great idea for auditors dealing specifically with the mentally ill as opposed to those auditors dealing with the more stable ones. Why do you think that Cathy Tweed would not second guess herself every single day? This phenomenon is WELL KNOWN on the medical and psychotherapeutic community. So lets look at this. Way to absolutely avoid the question. The No.1 UK for funeral notices, where you can search over 5,001,904. I am no expert at Public Relations, but I am no amateur, neither. She admitted that she had made multiple suicide attempts in previous years. But what we have from BOTH sides is the dramatization of a huge Service Facsimile (You are wrong; I am totally right), that totally blind both parties from sensible communication. A&E's teaser for the upcoming episode shows a picture of my beautiful daughter." This was about her daughter and how she ( Kathy ) and Scientology failed Taylor!. If people come to me and are not ready to abandon their fathers, mothers, wives, children, brothers, and sisters, as well as their own lives, they cannot be my disciples.. Who Where Receive obituaries Mary Marguerite Taylor February 15, 2023 (95 years old) View obituary Glenn Franks February 16, 2023 (88 years old) View obituary And its the most insidious problem with what Leah and Mike are doing.. That is pathetic. How convenient!!! But thats obviously not good enough for you. We are currently puzzled how Tyler Tweeddied. Could you guys try to keep this somewhere in the vicinity of Cathy Tweed, Leah Remini and Scientology and the Aftermath? We werent supposed to accept those, but the ED (a GREAT individual indeed! I am so grateful for my amazing parents and brother, whose love is unconditional, and support unwavering no matter how bad or misguided my youth was. Tayler deserved so much better! Butler Funeral Homes & Cremation Tribute Center Saturday, February 25, 2023 Add Photos 2 Memories Carol J. Aarup SPRINGFIELD - Carol J. Aarup, 84, passed away Thursday, February 23, 2023, at her. James Cooper Jr. Tony Lakeith McCowin. This show wasnt about Kathy Tweed! Ratings. Tayler Woolston Obituary, Death - The North Tonawanda community said a student who had a very special place in their hearts passed away this past week. Or something actually never explained. But, lets just face the facts..it was awfully tempting to run with the Tayler story because one of her best Scientology friends was the daughter of Hollywoods own Alex Gibney. Historic Notices 0. Tayler had not been out of Scientology very long, and the fear of modern medicine stuck with her still. At that above link, youll be able to see that the opposition against psychiatry is something WIDELY shared by many groups including medical doctors and different kinds of psychotherapists THEMSELVES and an opposition that HAVE existed independently of Scn and even before it. In your blog post, you write There is a lot of information that neither Tony Ortega, nor Rachel Bernstein, nor Leah Remini, nor Mike Rinder have given you, yet I see no actual proof of any information, only anecdotal accounts of how they tried to help her. Is my post to be interpreted as that I think that ALL psychotropic drugs are harmful for the patient, and that at no moment any of them should be used to help someone? This is what we need, being fair and balanced, and showing both sides of the coin while remaining compassionate to all sides. It says that in order to know you first have to be willing to completely not know, in which case the universe will be open to you. Glasscock's classic 1935 book . Wow, what a most accurate and balanced post indeed!!! I wish she had taken counsel and gone to see a mental health care provider, but without health insurance or financial backing, she felt it was impossible. Take effective measures to correct such wrongdoings where and when they have occurred. Ah, and here is the information about Dr. Breggin. My local AO wouldnt deliver this, instead either hat a family member, or turn it over to a field auditor.. No religion has the freedom to deny medical care that then results in death. Eventually even insurance companies were covering chiropractic care. Thats not what we were trained for. Of course you proved your point. I am truly sorry for the loss of your beautiful daughter. Yet he criticises the ones who do. Everett R. Tweed, III "Gene" MEGGETT, S.C. - Everett R. "Gene" Tweed, III, 77, of Meggett, husband of Betty B. Tweed, died Saturday, June 27, 2009 at Roper Hospital . Hi Alanzo! Your search results for obituary: 26 newspaper articles contained information about obituary filtered by: Date from: 1st Apr 1973 - Date to: 30th Apr 1973 Mike does ABSOLUTELY NOTHING when a Scientologist post a comment there at his blog, and a lot of commenters start attacking him/her left and right with all kinds of insults, just because that Scientologist says something (ANYTHING) positive about LRH or Scn. Youre extremely eager to call out Mike and Leah. They had Lauren Haggis on, who is a friend of Leahs family, as the vehicle to tell the story. Other groups were not the topic. Ive met Mike and like him just fine though he DID try to get in my way back when he was still in and I was starting to wake up. Would you like a TV show to make an episode about you and your dead daughter without your consent, and second guess you like this to millions of people? What drives ratings? And Al, Im really glad youre sticking up for Cathy Tweed. You dont know me. He is somewhat psychotic, actually, you know, a little like LRH himself got. This kind of cruelty is strewn throughout the anti-Scientology community right now, including fans of Scientology and the Aftermath, because that kind of cruel second-guessing was built right into the episode you watched. So what. Why are you not calling out Scientologys ways of handling these situations? Naturopaths? Date of Death or Service Mar 5, 2023 . You are defending a woman who dragged her daughter into a mythological realm of nonsense that refused to help her. Mrs. Tweed was a longtime member of Chestnut Grove Community Church and worked in the health and food industry for several years. Are we that naive so as to negate that her Fight against the abuses HAS been very helpful for her career? I quote from it : Injuries, operations, delivery of babies, severe illnesses and periods of intense emotional shock all deserve to be handled with thorough and complete assists., Medical examination and diagnosis should be sought where needed, and where treatment is routinely successful, medical treatment should be obtained., As an assist can at times cover up an actual injury or broken bone, no chances should be taken, especially if the condition does not easily respond. And what drives TV? Just THESE links would be enough to prove my point : https://www.psychologytoday.com/blog/sideways-view/201505/the-anti-psychiatry-movement. We need, Being fair and balanced, and the opportunity to right our wrongdoings are you not calling Scientologys. Who wanted to save the world had Lauren Haggis on, who is a documentary practitioners. Thursday Funnies and Regraded tayler tweed obituary about If not about mocking the church does treat. 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