"At the time it didn't really register with us because his mannerisms were so awkward anyway.". One of them was Eva O, whom he really had strong feelings for and was heartbroken when she left him. Eva claimed that she and the serial killer exchanged poems, initially for a . This website uses cookies to improve your experience while you navigate through the website. "If you ever read his correspondence he was not a good letter writer. "Yeah he wasn't convicted of that but they were part of his case. "I get about 50 letters a week - it takes five to 10 days for your mail to arrive. The twisted serial killer is currently the focus of a new Netflix documentary, which has left many viewers shocked at the depravity of his crimes against men, women and children. Ramirez famously held his hand up during the trial to reveal a pentagram on his hand - and shocking the courtroom. She was even the first woman he ever proposed to. Doreen Lioy remained unconvinced of his guilt. On November 7, 1989, Ramirez was sentenced to death. These cookies will be stored in your browser only with your consent. Deathstruction Production EG Video Shorts050215TVIceman, Sacred War, moreHere it is Q&A #3. This song is for the heart to feel. The serial killer was found guilty of 13 murders, five attempted murders, 11 sexual assaults and 14 burglaries. They described their music as "a strange mixture of metallic death rock and punk." "He just always masturbated. You are picking their brains, I suppose. One of them was Doreen Lioy who kept writing love letters to her potential husband for almost 11 years. The crimes Richard Ramirez committed during what is known as the era of the Night Stalker began June 28, 1984. In a Summer 2007 issue of Deathrock magazine, author Philip Henken wrote in the article "The Story of O" about Eva that "when I ask her about the Christian conversions, she tells me she's left being born-again behind." By rejecting non-essential cookies, Reddit may still use certain cookies to ensure the proper functionality of our platform. Highlight for me is; "Ever gone bowling? Lioy also became his most ardent defender in the public eye, sometimes even praising his character in interviews. As for Stamos, he remembered Lioy as a very lonely woman and later reflected on her choice to marry Ramirez: To be that lonely that this is the only man on the planet that she can find, I just thought, How horrible. This man is the personification of evil just a monster.. "I knew other people who visited him once walked in and the first thing he said was take off your shoes and put them up on the glass and he would jerk off right there, she told me the guy next to him actually handed him some toilet paper to clean up - it was just a thing - they knew that's what he was going to do. "Yeah he wasn't convicted of that but they were part of his case. According to Los Angeles Times reporter Christopher Goffard, who visited the facility while conducting an unrelated interview and spotted Lioy, she appeared to be drawn to Ramirezs vulnerability., Goffard explained that she met with Ramirez about four times per week, and she was usually the first visitor in line. Through their perspective we revisit exchanged letters and emotions that are as obsessive as they are hauntingly familiar. Just pen pals really, eventually I just stopped writing him cause it got boring. Jason Vukovich: The Hammer-Wielding Pedophile-Hunter Known As The 'Alaskan Avenger', What Stephen Hawking Thinks Threatens Humankind The Most, 27 Raw Images Of When Punk Ruled New York, Join The All That's Interesting Weekly Dispatch. A trailer for the 2021 Netflix documentary series. Jablonski is just plain disgusting and Manson is a self-righteous egomaniac. One of his pieces of prison arts appears to be a self portrait of him grinning and holding up a pentagram on his hand. In one letter from Harder's collection, shared with The Sun, the killer writes to a female groupie and goes from asking mundane questions about her favorite color - to sexually explicit stories from his past. The number of women that were in love this guy AFTER he was caught is astounding. Dude his drawings weird me out I expect to see those kinds of doodles in a kid's school folder. I think hes a really great person. I have a friend who sells what's known as murderabilia, various things he's collected and traded from & with killers he's corresponded with over time, he makes a minor living doing that. On September 20th, 1989, the jury found Ramirez guilty on 13 counts of murder, 5 counts of attempted murder, 11 counts of sexual assault, and 14 burglary charges. NIGHT Stalker Richard Ramirez used to compulsively masturbate in front of guards and visitors while behind bars for a series of gruesome murders in California. So at the time, the idea of marrying a serial killer probably seemed ludicrous to Lioy. But I did not have his address, so the letters piled up in a corner. They have murdered and tortured and raped. Ultimately, their relationship most likely did not end well. There have a few reports so far that this glorifies killer. For more information, please see our ", Seven passengers rushed to hospital after 'severe turbulence' on flight, Shanquella Robinson's family rips officials after her death in Mexico, Gabby Petito's family claim cop knew Laundrie was threat in lawsuit update, Jury inspect eerie Murdaugh murder scene where mom & son were executed, 2020 THE SUN, US, INC. ALL RIGHTS RESERVED | TERMS OF USE | PRIVACY | YOUR AD CHOICES | SITEMAP, Ramirez murdered 13 people in California in the mid-80s, He painted this chilling picture while incarcerated at San Quentin State prison in North California, Remorseless Ramirez showed off this pentagram to shocked onlookers in court, Ramirez in San Quentin prison during a visit, He would send the bizarre art work to his twisted followers, In this letter he asks a series of mundane questions, He appears very interested in the recipient's sister, He soon becomes sexual - asking the recipient when her breasts developed, Ramirez was given 19 death sentences, but died from cancer before his execution, The killer with his wife Doreen in prison, In this 2001 letter, Ramirez mentions fellow serial killer Ted Bundy, Ramirez would sign the front of this letters like this, Harder began writing to Ramirez in late 2000, Harder's visitor pass for his 2005 visit with Ramirez, Night Stalker survivor reveals how Richard Ramirez sexually assaulted her when she was 6, sentenced to death for 13 murders, five attempted and 11 sexual assaults, viewers shocked at the depravity of his crimes, crime memorabilia site called Murder Auction, described the murderer as an awkward character, people of all ages including children and elderly people. Press J to jump to the feed. So much hostility in my inbox this morning! The pastor removed the line until death do you part from the official proceedings. It has been repeatedly turned down for distribution in the United States due to its subject matter. Ramirez famously held his hand up during the trial to reveal a pentagram on his hand - and shocking the courtroom. Harder, who visited Ramirez twice in 2005, described the murderer as an awkward character who didn't really know how to interact with people. I have also written to Philip Jablonski. Ramirez is locked up so he can't hurt them. LET ME REPHRASE SINCE I CANT EDIT THE TITLE. Sarah and Richard had more of a fantasy kind of relationship and Shoko was just curious and wanted to write him. Simpson, and we all know how that turned out.. Christian Death reunited and released two more albums, but the lineup that the band used on those albums was essentially just everyone from Shadow Project. 2020 Animated Documentary 15Directed by Shoko Hara Produced byStefan Michel / Studio Seufz. Height, weight, and shoe size: 6ft 1, 180 pounds, and shoe size 12 Hometown: Texas, USA Marital Status: Single Family members: 5 Cars: Lamborghini in the SQ parking lot ADVERTISEMENT Most treasured possession: My D**k Woman or Man: Me Childhood hero: Jack the Ripper Tired of Rozz getting most of the credit for the Shadow Project work (much of which she wrote), Eva O went solo and released Past Time in 1993 on Cleopatra Records. "Because of that they put him in the most controlled environment in San Quentin which is called the adjustment center he had no visits, no telephone access, no privileges. Even more disturbing, many of his crimes included a Satanic element such as carving pentagrams into his victims bodies. She started a local, all-girl punk band in Long Beach known as the Speed Queens, and played with them from 1980 to 1982. Harder said he is pleased that the Netflix documentary focused on the child murders and abuse committed by Ramirez because the killer was never tried for these crimes. It is mandatory to procure user consent prior to running these cookies on your website. Deathrock legend Eva O. is one of them. Damnation/Salvation is a detailed chronicle of her involvement with the occult and Satanism climaxing with her encounter with Jesus. He would do little research projects and try to figure out different things. After 11 years of writing love letters to her prospective husband, Doreen Lioy finally got to marry the man of her dreams. I don't ignore these reports, I look at each one carefully and read through every comment again to make sure the general 'mood' hasn't gone to a weird place. Thomas Glen Lundgren, 13, who was brutalized by twice-paroled sex offender and violent child molester Bill Bonin and his accomplice Vernon Butts. It didnt really creep me out much, I wouldnt have visited him or anything but all it from a FAR distance was cool. After numerous reworkings and remixings, Eva finally completed her Damnation (Ride the Madness) album in 1999 and in 2005 its follow-up Damnation/Salvation album and released it on the German death-metal label Massacre Records in 2005. He murdered 14 people and committed numerous other crimes. I have shown all my posters respect and answered all of your questions with haste and honesty. Richard Ramirez sent the letter first to Sarah and she gave it to me. I would love to understand and study why women find these scumbags attractive. To me, this was a historical day. His older cousin Miguel a Vietnam veteran told him sickening stories of torturing Vietnamese women during the war. So I asked him to say hello to the camera so I got the impression when I saw him on TV that he was saying hello to me. As for movies I like thrillers and comedies. New comments cannot be posted and votes cannot be cast. Especially someone like Richard Ramirez, as far as serial killers go dude is a psycho in the worst way. How and why did you decide to do this? So I sent him the thirty letters I had written so far, all at once. William Harder, who visited Ramirez twice in prison, says he even masturbated in front of him during a visit and it became such a problem he was kept in solitary confinement for most of his prison life. Harder said he is pleased that the Netflix documentary focused on the child murders and abuse committed by Ramirez because the killer was never tried for these crimes. It's not even to do with the fact that are safe and tucked away in jail because most of these idiots would unlock the cells themselves given the chance. Director Shoko Hara is one of them. He would do little research projects and try to figure out different things. If this image is graphic, flair it NSFW, please. By accepting all cookies, you agree to our use of cookies to deliver and maintain our services and site, improve the quality of Reddit, personalize Reddit content and advertising, and measure the effectiveness of advertising. Full name: Richard Ramirez Date of birth: 2-28-60 Height, weight, shoe size: 6'1". Lioy sent him 75 letters in 11 years. ", News Group Newspapers Limited in England No. Eva states in the interview:[6]. The fact that he generally attacked people weaker than him (including old women) means he was not someone who could defend his family well, only that he was good at ambushing the innocent. We became friends and he even sent me $50 for my birthday . They dont know him the way I do.. Why is that a thing? Death always comes with the territory. "He leant forward so his face was right in the window. She corresponded with him after his incarceration for a brief time, but did not meet him before his notorious killings made him famous. He was reportedly abused by his father, and he sustained multiple head injuries as a child. Even his visits were just bizarre - some of his mannerisms - you could tell he wasn't 100 percent.". I could see being attracted to someone who would make you safer, but not this. Watch popular content from the following creators: <R3(@haii.satan6), (@ahs198.4), (@nightstalker_ramirezz), (@ramirezhours), Tis i(@deathrowrory), Jacktheknife(@jacktheknife_02291960), Jacktheknife(@jacktheknife_02291960), . In the May I went with my wife and a girlfriend of ours and Ramirez asked me to stand against the wall, probably so he could get a better look at the girls, and I saw him pull the tissue out of his pants pocket. I honestly dont think this guy deserved friendship. This is the horrifying true story of the Night Stalker. Richard Ramirez had an extremely traumatic start to life. She emphasizes that people need to listen to the entire album to understand its full meaning, rather than judging it by its cover, track listing, and the lyrics of the first several songs. We were both big fans of true crime magazines, and it made me angry to see that there were no artcles about him illustrated with pictures of his crime scenes. Everything below . I realize some of you think what I do is disgusting, and that's okay. We also use third-party cookies that help us analyze and understand how you use this website. Eventually Eva O contributed to the band's 1982 album Only Theatre of Pain, which was a highly influential album on the emerging American deathrock movement. From 1984 until he was caught in 1985, Ramirez murdered at least 14 people across California. Necessary cookies are absolutely essential for the website to function properly. Sarah pushed me to respond, but I was too scared because that would mean that he had my real address and I thought he might know someone else outside, who could kidnap me or something like that, like Charles Manson. Actor John Stamos actually credited her with helping him become a celebrity. I cant help the way the world looks at him, she said at the time. Although Lioy was overjoyed, the news of her wedding shocked the world. I have no problem with Christianity. So heartbroken for anyone whose life ended at his sick hands. Sales of guns, burglar alarms, and attack dogs surged as a result. I remember one od the first things I read about Ramirez was that he had chronic halitosis and it made his victims nauseas. In love, for love, real love, to the human world that needs to heal. Doreen Lioy entering San Quentin State Prison to be with Richard Ramirez. Shadow Project went on one final tour after recording a live album, In Tuned Out. Hes my best friend; hes my buddy.. I introduced the glorification rule to weed out people that follow this topic for the wrong reasons. richardramirez-thenightstalker: Eva O, the Diva of the Death-Rock and Gothic scene of Los Angeles in the 80s, Testimony about her Relationship with The Night Stalker, Richard Ramirez. On this Wikipedia the language links are at the top of the page across from the article title. After learning about Doreen Lioy and her life as Richard Ramirezs wife, check out 21 serial killer quotes that will chill you to the bone. I am a bit disappointed that this has turned into such a circle jerk in some parts of the thread. Reddit's open forum for discussion of anything and everything about true crime, court cases, and the legal system. To inquire about a licence to reproduce material, visit our Syndication site. I choose to be honest. For more general true crime content, follow @bluudstainbarbie Please contact the moderators of this subreddit if you have any questions or concerns. In him, Merry CHRIST MASS! One of them was Eva O, whom he really had strong feelings for and was heartbroken when she left him. [1], The Super Heroines released several albums, and when Rikk Agnew left Christian Death, Rozz asked Eva to fill in on guitar. If so slide the link . Richard Ramirez had an extremely traumatic start to life. Eva O Talks.Ramirez, Iceman . 679215 Registered office: 1 London Bridge Street, London, SE1 9GF. That night, I waited patiently in front of my television, and he did what I asked him! She was in Christian Death for a short time before they added two more members, one of whom later played some shows with the Super Heroines. This group earned a following on L.A.'s deathrock scene of the early 1980s. Such women are ultimately as insecure, narcissistic, pathetic and low in empathy as the serial killers they worship. Humanity everything is corrupt the moment a human touches it. Privacy Policy. TwitterRichard Ramirezs wife allegedly separated from her husband before he died in 2013. Deathrock legend Eva O. is one of them. I enjoyed reading them and I also enjoyed reading your thoughts and opinions on this, (even if I don't agree with you) thank you for taking the time to contribute to this AMA. Richard Ramirez as an adolescent. Its for research, right? By rejecting non-essential cookies, Reddit may still use certain cookies to ensure the proper functionality of our platform. Now I know this is taboo in an era where everyone seems to have fun hating Christ, a man who has done nothing to them and He said: "If the world hates you, know that it has hated me before it hated you." [1] Among the performers on it are Josh Pyle (keyboards/programming), River Tunnell (bass), and Kristian Rosentrater (drums), all members of the industrial band Audio Paradox. As he languished on death row at San Quentin State Prison, Lioy was his most frequent visitor. Cookie Notice And even though she was not the only woman who sent Ramirez love letters, she was by far the most persistent. Reddit and its partners use cookies and similar technologies to provide you with a better experience. My friend Edwin was married to Eva O. His murder spree had absolutely terrorized California especially since he targeted his victims while they were asleep. Ok, we werent friends per say, I guess pen pals. He writes: "Thank you for your compliments how old is your sister? The Sun can also reveal a series of bizarre art work and sexually explicit prison letters by the serial killer who terrorized Los Angeles in the 80s before he was sentenced to death for 13 murders, five attempted and 11 sexual assaults. Richard Ramirez killed at least 14 people, he raped and tortured at least two dozen more. Authorities already had his mugshots from his previous arrests, and one of his surviving victims had provided police with a detailed description. He was pretty obsessed with her, wanted to marry her, wrote her emo sad boi "Are you mad at me :'(" letters and would send her money from prison as some "Ima take care of you" gesture. We do have one rule which is unwritten, and that is not to share the addresses of people in prison. "He would sometimes get his privilege level back up to where he could have visits but they were always behind the glass.". Lioy was apparently a studious young woman who pursued a successful career in journalism. While Richard Ramirezs wife was enamored with her husband, her friends and family were in shock. Thats when I realized that I was right, there was a strong bond between our two souls. I am doing this AMA because I know there are others out there who are genuinely interested in who/what/why? And Im none of those things. I love children, she said. I'm struggling to decide how I feel about this (not that it really matters). Harder shared several letters and pictures from Ramirez - but pointed out he never pays prisoners for items - or sells letters or artwork sent to him personally. I could remove this because 'friends' feels inappropriate, but then at the same time I feel like i'm depriving people of handwritten documents that might give insight to a person's inner monologue. Some of the crimes he committed against children - including the kidnap of a six-year-old girl Anastasia Hronas, who miraculously survived, and told her harrowing story on the new docu-series Night Stalker - The Hunt For A Serial Killer - were not prosecuted because investigators did not want to put the child victims through a trial. letters exposed as its claimed he constantly masturbated in prison, Pedestrian who killed cyclist in clash over riding on pavement is JAILED after victim, 77, fell into path of car, Model 'paid thousands to smuggle 5m criminal cash into Dubai by hiding money in her holiday luggage', MI5 has blood on its hands after my daughter Saffie Roussos, 8, was killed in Manchester bombing attack, Dad 'fatally shot daughter, 7, in head & gunned down headteacher mum' who died of 'shock' from wounds in double killing, Rolf Harris sued over 'fresh sex attack after molesting vulnerable 10-year-old girl at school holiday camp', UK weather: Exact date snow and hail will hit Britain as chilly winds from the north blow in -1C temperatures, Frogmore eviction shows King Charles has drawn a line with Harry - now he must do two more things with the spoilt brat, Im a prison officer & worked with some of Britains feared men but I made a BIG mistake on my first month on the wing, crime memorabilia site called Murder Auction, described the murderer as an awkward character, people of all ages including children and elderly people, Independent Press Standards Organisation (IPSO).

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